. >> plenty of people have pointed out what a liar mitt romney is and was last night. if he was talking he was -- if he was speaking he was lying. gerri: to me this is beyond the pale. you collier upon a lot of things, but calling him a liar seems way too much. >> you can say it takes one to no one in this case, but i do think it is very and presidential, and that is the danger for president obama, coming out of this debate because he failed, particularly because the left is so disappointed and in despair over his behavior, he has now to call on the left town. so the way to do that, of course, is to attack chronic mccollum a liar, do all kinds of things. the problem with that strategy is while it might energize the left to make the turn of the independence to he is going to need calming down the stretch. this is the time of the race when they are aiming for the general election, not the primary based in the city has to still rev up the primary. gerri: a long way to go. the tone and tenor of the campaign changing with jobs numbers which were shockingly positive. we disc